A conversation with the host of the Symbolic World and Orthodox icon carver, Jonathan Pageau.
This is a republishing of an episode for the As Iron Sharpens Iron podcast, which you can find here: https://www.ancientfaith.com/podcasts/iron
0:00 – Coming up
1:00 – Introducing the interview and topic of Patriarchy
2:31 – What has Jonathan been up to, especially Mt Athos visit
8:34 – The ideals and pragmatics of Patriarchy
14:34 – Patriarchy as a pattern of reality
20:00 – On female priests in Christianity
23:33 – Feminine and masculine in the sacraments
26:07 – Marriage as the testing ground of aligning with patterns of reality
28:47 – How to lead as a father in modern society
31:15 – Directing your sexual energy as vital to earning your salvation
33:05 – The temptation for men to hand over the priestly role to their partner
36:30 – How to navigate leading your family with compassion and courage
40:20 – Work – life balance
42:50 – Jonathan’s social media engagement
43:30 – Paternal love – through spiritual fatherhood and brotherhood
46:00 – Men in Jonathans parish, circle of friends and family
49:00 – The risk of isolation and stagnation as men age
52:40 – Jonathan’s relationship with Jordan Peterson
54:00 – Depth vs breadth in friendships
58:32 – Sins of the right and how to use anger as a power
1:01:35 – The approach of Fr Josiah Trenham and learning obedience
1:05:05 – Taking confession and communion every week as a practice
1:07:35 – Jonathan on and off the pedestal
1:09:54 – A short interlude on Maniphesto
1:11:04 – The balance between sharing publically and staying private
1:16:05 – On The Priesthood and man’s priestly role is his family
1:23:22 – What we can learn from military hierarchy